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- Subject: Ham-Equip Digest V94 #27
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-
- Ham-Equip Digest Thu, 10 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 27
-
- Today's Topics:
- 386DX/25 PC For Sale (Great for Packet!)
- Ear Mikes
- Help!! need info standard C158A
- Intermodulation
- Kenwood TS-140 "Crummy" Switches
- TS140S + ARRL Powersupply...
- Vertical Antennas (2 msgs)
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 9 Feb 1994 00:40:13 -0500
- From: agate!spool.mu.edu!torn!nott!gandalf.ca!gandalf.ca!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 386DX/25 PC For Sale (Great for Packet!)
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- System includes 8MB RAM, 80MB SCSI hard drive, 5.25 1.2 MB Floppy and
- an ATI SVGA video controller (no monitor). Asking $500. Email
- bob@gandalf.ca if interested.
-
- Thanks,
-
- Bob n2oiq
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 15:59:07 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!relay1!rsvl_ns!ernie!rsvl.unisys.com!wilpwr@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Ear Mikes
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- The U. of MN ARC provides communication for the EMTs at Gopher Basketball
- games, and (surprise!) the games can get quite noisy. I currently use an
- earplug with a speaker mike, and I am looking for a better solution. When I
- am standing near the band, I can barely hear through the earpiece, and cannot
- hear myself as I speak through the mike.
-
- Would an ear mike help? Any experiences??
-
-
-
-
- Bill Powers WY0Q <wilpwr@rsvl.unisys.com>
- <powe0040@gold.tc.umn.edu>
- UNISYS Corp.
- MS 4033 Phone: [612] 635-5267
- P.O. Box 64942 FAX: [612] 635-7523
- St. Paul, MN 55164-0942
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 9 Feb 94 09:56:44 CST
- From: library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!engr.uark.edu!news.ualr.edu!athena.ualr.edu!pmstuckey@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Help!! need info standard C158A
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi, I am in need of some info for the new Standard C158A 2 meter handheld
- radio that is advertised in the Feb 94 QST on page 19... What I need is
- the specific part number for some of the outer parts, knobs etc.. if anyone
- has the radio and the book with the part numbers, please let me know..
- I REALLY need this info.. Thanks..
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-
- Date: 5 Feb 94 09:59:01 GMT
- From: illuminati.io.com!nobody@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Intermodulation
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- A while back, I asked on a local board about intermodulation. I was
- given an explanation, but as much as I hate to admit it, I don't grasp it.
-
- I understand that if you have a radio that does more than t should,
- such as out-of-band scanning, or dual-band HT's, you get "intermod".
- Unfortunately, I don't know WHAT intermod signals sound like, what
- they do, how they do it, and why I'm too moronic to grasp the concept.
-
- Here's the situation that prompted the debate with myself:
-
- I have a scanner which picks up the local mall security on 464.575
- I also hear the WD8EEQ repeater on this frequency. The guy who
- owns it hasn't been around for a few weeks, so I can't ask him why
- I'm hearing his repeater out of the 70cm band, and why it's so
- *clear*. I don't mean some static - this is as clear as day.
- I'm also hearing Mall Security on that frequency. They do not seem
- to be interfereing with each other.
-
- Last night, when I went to the mall, I saw a dipole antenna above the security
- office. Of course, until I got into ham radio, I never noticed it 'fore.
- But it's definately a dipole. Lord knows it could be any sort of
- dipole, but it looks all-too-hammish.
-
- So, now I've got an explanation that "intermod is causing this".
- I'm also at a loss to figure out security/ham on the same frequency.
- And, btw, I'm listening on a scanner, not an HT. So, I do not
- believe "intermod" is causing this.
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 17:48:09 GMT
- From: spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!cs.uiuc.edu!news1.oakland.edu!rcsuna.gmr.com!kocrsv01!c2xjcb@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Kenwood TS-140 "Crummy" Switches
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- Please respond directly via E-mail . . . I don't regularly subscribe
- to this newsgroup . . .thanx
-
-
- I have a Kenwood TS-140 that's about 3 years old, and I've noticed
- that several of the "buttons" (and the small rotary knob used for
- 10KHz steps and memory channel selection) don't seem to work very
- well anymore. The rotary knob was the 1st to go; rotating the knob
- at a reasonably brisk pace wouldn't hardly "move" your frequency at
- all (in fact, sometimes you'd find yourself a few 10's of KHz in the
- OTHER direction from what you'd turned it). Apparantly there is some
- sort of "switch bounce" problem. Kenwood DID leave a small hole
- behind the knob for spraying-in "Tuner Cleaner", which works for a
- while, but the problem comes back after a few weeks.
-
- Lately I've noticed that several of the push-buttons (the ones to the
- left of the main tuning knob, used for LSB/USB CW/CWN AM/FM and for
- the VFO->M selection, no longer work well. You have to press them
- off-center to activate, and the VFO->M button is nearly DEAD.
-
- I am not a MAJORLY active ham, in fact, I'm embarrassed at how little
- I use my hard earned license (always seems to be other things I need
- or want to do around the house) . . . so I don't believe that the
- problem stems from over-use (i.e. wearout). Can my "lack of use" be
- a problem (i.e. oxidized contacts)? The rig IS in my basement, but,
- it is heated and dehumidified, so moisture doesn't seem likely.
-
-
- Anyone have any similar experiences? Any good remedies?
-
- Thanx (in advance).
- --
- James C. Bach Ph: (317)-451-0455 The views & opinions expressed
- Advanced Project Engr. GM-NET: 8-322-0455 herein are mine alone, and are
- Powertrain Strategy Grp Amateur Radio: WY9F NOT endorsed, sponsored, nor
- Delco Electronics Corp. Just say NO to UNIX! encouraged by DE or GM.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:43:32 GMT
- From: kithrup.com!majipoor.cygnus.com!sgiblab!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!headwall.Stanford.EDU!Csli!kawai@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: TS140S + ARRL Powersupply...
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- Demetre Koumanakos (demetre@phaethon.intranet.gr) asks:
-
- | While having a TS140S hooked on the power supply, and while the
- | radio itself was off, when the supply was turned off the voltage
- | would jump to full voltage (30V+) for a second or two before the
- | capacitors would discharge...
-
- [Very tentative suggestion:] Could it be that your rig is not
- well-grounded? Did you see the voltage spike after you had been using
- your rig for a while, and then you turned it off?
-
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-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 15:09:38 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!wa4mei.ping.com!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Vertical Antennas
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CKvGDJ.GFv@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> alanb@sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
- >If you compare a vertical over an infinite ground plane to a dipole
- >(or any other antenna) in free space, you are comparing apples to oranges.
-
- True.
-
- >When thinking about antenna gain, it helps immensely to remember the
- >principle of conservation of energy. Nearly all full-sized antennas are
- >essentially 100% efficent. That means that a dipole, a vertical, a
- >rhombic, a Yagi beam, etc. all radiate 1 watt for every watt applied
- >through the feedline. To obtain gain, the antenna directs more of its
- >signal in one direction and less in another.
-
- I'd argue that a quarterwave vertical over real lossy ground doesn't
- fit the idea of 100% efficiency very well. It expends quite a bit of
- it's energy warming the earthworms in the lossy soil making up it's
- current mirror. (IE half the "full size" antenna in this case is really
- a current reflection in the lossy ground.)
-
- >Any antenna over an infinite ground plane has a 3 dB (2x power) advantage
- ^^^ emphasis added
- >over an antenna in free space. That's because it only has 1/2 of all
- >possible directions in which to send its signal.
-
- Over an infinite *perfectly reflective* ground plane. Over lossy ground,
- that 3 db is reduced by ground losses, though some gain remains. The
- more you can improve the ground plane, the closer to the ideal 3 db
- you'll approach.
-
- >Consider a vertical dipole in free space. You could insert a horizontal
- >infinite ground plane at the feedpoint without changing the radiation
- >pattern. Now you have two verticals, one pointing up, one pointing down.
- >Each vertical radiates half the power of the original dipole.
-
- True because each has half the current that flows in the entire dipole.
-
- >Note
- >that the upper vertical (over a groundplane) can generate the same
- >field strength as the dipole (in free space), but with only 1/2 the power.
-
- No, I disagree with the way you're saying this. The upper vertical in
- this thought experiment has half the current of the dipole and so generates
- half the field. The ground mirror is supplying a 3 db reflection gain that
- makes up for the lower field produced by the current in the upper vertical.
-
- >So a 1/4-wave vertical over an infinite ground plane has 3 dB power "gain"
- >over a dipole in free space.
-
- True only *if* it has the same current flowing in it as the dipole. IE
- the current flowing in the quarterwave vertical is 2 times the current
- flowing in *half* of the free space dipole. (True for constant power input
- to both antennas since the base impedance of the vertical is half that of
- the dipole.) That, with the phantom mirror current in the ground plane,
- has the same effect as would doubling the current fed into a dipole in free
- space, thus the 3 db gain.
-
- I think we're trying to say the same thing, but looking at it from a
- slightly different perspective.
-
- >Now consider a dipole suspended a half wavelength or more over an infinite
- >ground plane. In some directions, it will have 6 dB gain over a dipole
- >in free space, which gives 3 dB gain over the vertical. In other directions,
- >the field will be zero. If you averaged the radiated power over all
- >directions (half sphere), you would find it sums to the same power as the
- >1/4-wave vertical (also averaged over all directions.)
-
- True, but gain in the main lobe (what we normally mean when we talk about
- gain) is 2X that of the vertical. And in the real world of lossy ground
- planes that make poor current mirrors, the horizontal dipole has a greater
- efficiency. A vertical halfwave, that doesn't need the current mirror,
- will also have greater efficiency than the quarterwave over real ground.
-
- Gary
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-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 20:46:31 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Vertical Antennas
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- If you compare a vertical over an infinite ground plane to a dipole
- (or any other antenna) in free space, you are comparing apples to oranges.
-
- When thinking about antenna gain, it helps immensely to remember the
- principle of conservation of energy. Nearly all full-sized antennas are
- essentially 100% efficent. That means that a dipole, a vertical, a
- rhombic, a Yagi beam, etc. all radiate 1 watt for every watt applied
- through the feedline. To obtain gain, the antenna directs more of its
- signal in one direction and less in another.
-
- Any antenna over an infinite ground plane has a 3 dB (2x power) advantage
- over an antenna in free space. That's because it only has 1/2 of all
- possible directions in which to send its signal.
-
- Consider a vertical dipole in free space. You could insert a horizontal
- infinite ground plane at the feedpoint without changing the radiation
- pattern. Now you have two verticals, one pointing up, one pointing down.
- Each vertical radiates half the power of the original dipole. Note
- that the upper vertical (over a groundplane) can generate the same
- field strength as the dipole (in free space), but with only 1/2 the power.
- So a 1/4-wave vertical over an infinite ground plane has 3 dB power "gain"
- over a dipole in free space.
-
- Now consider a dipole suspended a half wavelength or more over an infinite
- ground plane. In some directions, it will have 6 dB gain over a dipole
- in free space, which gives 3 dB gain over the vertical. In other directions,
- the field will be zero. If you averaged the radiated power over all
- directions (half sphere), you would find it sums to the same power as the
- 1/4-wave vertical (also averaged over all directions.)
-
- AL N1AL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 12:17:17 GMT
- From: munnari.oz.au!metro!news.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!nic.hookup.net!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!admii!ovation!ramcad.pica.army.mil!mellis@network.
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- References <ah301-260194121225@129.228.248.39>, <2i8rnf$o5n@explorer.clark.net>, <CKM79r.45H@sunsrvr6.cci.com>m
- Reply-To : mellis@ramcad.pica.army.mil (Mark Ellis)
- Subject : Re: htx-202 or dj-162 ?
-
-
- >>>I'd like to get comments and opinions from people in the net who
- >>>have actually used both.
- >>>currently, I am leaning towards the dj-162 because of its wide
- >>>receive.
- >>
- >>The HTX202 is a good radio. It comes with the CTCSS, DTMF squelch, and
- >>it can store telephone numbers. It has 14 memories, I think.
- >>
- >> Matt Roberts N3GZM
- >
- >I'll second the motion. The HTX-202 is also more sensitive on receive
- >than my ICOM-27H, of a late 70's or early 80's vintage. And the price
- >is right when Radio Shack runs one of their periodic "sales".
- >
- >73...Jim
- >N2VNO
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- And my htx-202 is still working after I dropped it last nite. Of course,
- it was cushioned by the concrete floor it landed on :-). Or maybe :-(.
-
- I got mine on sale for $200 last summer.
-
- --- Mark Ellis n2wzb
-
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- End of Ham-Equip Digest V94 #27
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